[CTPP] TAZ Development

Ed Christopher edc at berwyned.com
Thu Aug 6 09:44:54 CDT 2009


Watching this discussion on TAZs has been interesting and the size of 
TAZs has been shown to be more of an art than a rule based science. 
With that said I want to toss a few more items on the table when folks 
are considering TAZs.

1.  TAZs to be used in the production of a CTPP 5-year ACS product will 
not have to be developed until the Summer of 2011.  The process used 
will be an equivalence method where folks will be asked to say which 
Census Blocks  (in their entirety) will be placed in which TAZ.

2.  There will likely be at least two TAZ sizes.  The regular TAZs that 
we have all come to know and the subject of Bob's question and maybe a 
larger one somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 residents.  Just this 
week the AASHTO CTPP Oversight Board established a subcommittee to work 
out the TAZ details.  Guy Rousseau of the Atlanta MPO is chairing the 
group.

3.  The TAZs will be developed to support a tabulation of the 5-year ACS 
data using (2006, 07, 08, 09 and 2010) data that is planned to be 
released in the Summer of 2012.  For areas that do not submit TAZs 
Tracks (and maybe Block Groups) will be the default.

4.  For the CTPP 5-year tabulation there is a NCHRP project (NCHRP 8-79) 
getting underway that, if successful, will take any disclosure issues 
off the table.  The RFP for the project, "Producing Transportation Data 
Products from the American Community Survey that Comply with Disclosure 
Rules" was just finalized and put out on the street two days ago. See 
http://www.trb.org/TRBNet/ProjectDisplay.asp?ProjectID=2708 to view the 
RFP and details.

5.  Assuming NCHRP 8-79 is successful, which there is no reason why it 
should not be, TAZ sizes will not be affected by the artificial 
disclosure rules and instead can go back to being determined based on 
good planning practice.  Which doesn't answer Bob's original question 
but does help put the focus where it should be.

6. Regarding disclosure rules we know from our attempt to get some CTPP 
tables produced from the 3-year ACS that if the same rules for the 
3-year were extended to the 5-year data the losses would be so 
devastating that there would be no usable 5-year data, which is why we 
fought for the NCHRP project.

7. In terms of a 3-year CTPP ACS product we hope to have one released in 
the Spring/Summer of 2010 using 2006, 07 and 08 data.  This release will 
be subject to a variety of data suppression and disclosure rules and 
will only be for areas of 20,000 residents or more.  To see the tables 
that were designed for this go to http://trbcensus.com/products/

8.  In terms of TAZ sizes for planning the Florida DOT through its 
modeling group has published a report on the subject.  I do not have the 
link to the report handy but maybe someone else the list can find it and 
post it.

I hope this helps clarify a few things

Paddock, Bob wrote:
> I must admit that, of late, I have gotten lost in the woods while trying 
> to see all the trees.  During these past months I have been engaged in 
> developing a new TAZ system for the Minneapolis – St. Paul MPO area that 
> will both serve the needs of travel demand modeling here at the 
> Metropolitan Council *AND* provide us with the information we want from 
> a 2010 CTPP-like product.
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> This new TAZ system is substantially more refined than those of the past 
> and should result in reasonable travel loadings on our arterial roadway 
> network.  However, certain issues have been raising their knobby heads 
> regarding zone size that probably will clash with Census Disclosure 
> Board rules.  Does anyone have a reasonable idea as to what minimum 
> population or household levels a TAZ will need to attain in order to 
> circumvent large numbers of “blank” cells?  I suspect that there is not 
> an easy, uncomplicated answer but would like to hear one nonetheless.
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> *Bob Paddock***
> 
> Transportation Planning
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> Metropolitan Council
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> Bob.paddock at metc.state.mn.us
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> 651 / 602-1340
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